Finally deciding to purchase DM 42. I have a question first however.

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Finally deciding to purchase DM 42. I have a question first however.

Post by gomefun2 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:32 am

I notice that the calculator is currently 307 Canadian dollars (plus 23 CAD for shipping) on Amazon.

This seems more expensive than directly buying it from Swissmicros. Since Swissmicros 199 CHF price converts to roughly 267 CAD. I don't see a shipping price however. What additional fees are there when buying directly from Swissmicros.com? (Shipping? Tariffs? Taxes? Fees?).

Is it actually cheaper for me to purchase from the Swissmicros website vs Amazon?

Thanks.

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Re: Finally deciding to purchase DM 42. I have a question first however.

Post by grsbanks » Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:07 am

Hi there,

The SwissMicros website quotes CHF 16 to ship to Canada, so the total cost is CHF 215.

Google makes that CAD 288 right now.
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Re: Finally deciding to purchase DM 42. I have a question first however.

Post by Walter » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:35 pm

gomefun2 wrote:
Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:32 am
I notice that the calculator is currently 307 Canadian dollars (plus 23 CAD for shipping) on Amazon.

This seems more expensive than directly buying it from Swissmicros. Since Swissmicros 199 CHF price converts to roughly 267 CAD. I don't see a shipping price however. What additional fees are there when buying directly from Swissmicros.com? (Shipping? Tariffs? Taxes? Fees?).

Is it actually cheaper for me to purchase from the Swissmicros website vs Amazon?
Counterquestion: How do you expect a price to develop if there is a trade intermediary?
  1. Fall?
  2. Stay constant?
  3. Rise?
Please decide and act accordingly.
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Re: Finally deciding to purchase DM 42. I have a question first however.

Post by gomefun2 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:17 pm

It was more expensive to buy it off Amazon than swissmicros.com for sure. Quite a bit more.

I bought it off Amazon anyway. The reason is, I read that sellers are supposed to include all duties/fees in their price when selling on Amazon.ca. So I was hoping there wouldn't be any surprises and buying from Amazon would go smoothly.

I have never paid duties/fees on an Amazon item before, even when purchasing internationally, so it made sense to me that the Amazon price would include these things.

Hopefully, I won't have to pay any additional fees.

Anyway, I guess I'll let you guys know when it gets here (it will probably be delayed if it is coming through Canada Post which has a backlog due to a strike).

It's already shipped so just have to wait now.

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Re: Finally deciding to purchase DM 42. I have a question first however.

Post by grsbanks » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:46 pm

There wouldn't have been any import duty on the calculator if you'd bought it direct from Swiss Micros. You would have paid the CHF 215 and that's it. Michael deliberately puts a low value on the customs declaration specifically to avoid subjecting customers to the hassle and extra cost.
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Re: Finally deciding to purchase DM 42. I have a question first however.

Post by gomefun2 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:19 pm

If this is true, then it cost me a bit extra.

Maybe this post will help someone else to save some money.

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Re: Finally deciding to purchase DM 42. I have a question first however.

Post by rkf » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:55 am

grsbanks wrote:
Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:46 pm
There wouldn't have been any import duty on the calculator if you'd bought it direct from Swiss Micros. ... Michael deliberately puts a low value on the customs declaration specifically to avoid subjecting customers to the hassle and extra cost.
That didn't help with German Customs - they collected 19% Einfuhrumsatzsteuer (import sales tax) on the full amount, demanding the original invoice. But nevertheless a good purchase!
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Re: Finally deciding to purchase DM 42. I have a question first however.

Post by Thomas_ER » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:11 am

rkf wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:55 am

... they collected 19%
@rkf: not always ...
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Re: Finally deciding to purchase DM 42. I have a question first however.

Post by Walter » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:44 am

Thomas_ER wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:11 am
rkf wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:55 am

... they collected 19%
@rkf: not always ...
Confirmed.
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Re: Finally deciding to purchase DM 42. I have a question first however.

Post by gomefun2 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:22 pm

I received my dm42 in the mail yesterday. There was no update through Amazon for tracking information (like there usually is), it just appeared.

I was not charged any additional fees beyond the Amazon price.

The Amazon price was a bit higher than the SwissMircos price.

Amazon seems to have quite a bit of a safety net when it comes to ordering. If your package is lost in the mail, then Amazon will fully refund you etc.

I don't really regret buying it through Amazon, because we have recently had a postal strike here which means the entire mail system is backed up, so it was probably good to have that extra Amazon insurance.

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