Hi Thomas, this should be the full character set.ecsfang wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:05 amHi Massimo,
As far as I can see, the same characters are there (all of them), but I can't match the character code with the table you sent, so for me it looks like the same character set - but with different character codes (eg. the characters are reused in the range 128-255 but not in the same order as in the table).I am not sure, either, just a guess.
Anyhow - thanks for the info!
Cheers,
Thomas
Display test ... not 100% correct?
Re: Display test ... not 100% correct?
Greetings,
Massimo
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Re: Display test ... not 100% correct?
Hi again,
It is almost the opposite of the one I described earlier:
[ALPHA] off
CLA
128 XTOA
58 XTOA
129 XTOA
58 XTOA
[ALPHA] on
The display now shows: "+: :a : :" (6 characters) where I would have expected only 4 characters: "#:#:"
('+' is the append character and '#' is a starburst).
(Also note that there is an extra space shown here after 'a' since the post sometimes treats ':' as an escape character when entering text).
Now try this (with alpha still on):
[shift][ASN] - append string --> "+: :a : :_"
[<--] - delete one character --> "+: :a :_"
[<--] - delete one character --> "+: :a_"
[<--] - delete one character --> "+: :_"
[<--] - delete one character --> "+:_"
In your case, both the space and the colon is deleted by every delete, and here, even if it is only a single character (internaly), delete treats the character as two ...
Cheers,
Thomas
Yes, I tried that - very similar to the bug I described in PCC V10N7P19 a long time agoP.S.- Did you try the "blank-comma" bug yet?
It is almost the opposite of the one I described earlier:
[ALPHA] off
CLA
128 XTOA
58 XTOA
129 XTOA
58 XTOA
[ALPHA] on
The display now shows: "+: :a : :" (6 characters) where I would have expected only 4 characters: "#:#:"
('+' is the append character and '#' is a starburst).
(Also note that there is an extra space shown here after 'a' since the post sometimes treats ':' as an escape character when entering text).
Now try this (with alpha still on):
[shift][ASN] - append string --> "+: :a : :_"
[<--] - delete one character --> "+: :a :_"
[<--] - delete one character --> "+: :a_"
[<--] - delete one character --> "+: :_"
[<--] - delete one character --> "+:_"
In your case, both the space and the colon is deleted by every delete, and here, even if it is only a single character (internaly), delete treats the character as two ...
Cheers,
Thomas
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Re: Display test ... not 100% correct?
Hi Massimo,
Yes, that look like it!
All characters, but different codes.
Eg. 0x91 (145) is the delta, 0x94 I don't know ... "LX"?
But 0xA0 it "text" and 0xA1 is "a" on the DM41X.
So all characters are there (and I haven't seen any other characters in the DM41X not in this table) but the codes are different.
Cheers,
Thomas
Yes, that look like it!
All characters, but different codes.
Eg. 0x91 (145) is the delta, 0x94 I don't know ... "LX"?
But 0xA0 it "text" and 0xA1 is "a" on the DM41X.
So all characters are there (and I haven't seen any other characters in the DM41X not in this table) but the codes are different.
Cheers,
Thomas
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Re: Display test ... not 100% correct?
A chair.
Greetings,
Massimo
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Re: Display test ... not 100% correct?
Eeny, meeny, miny, moe
why do we need three μ?
why do we need three μ?
Greetings,
Massimo
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Massimo
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Re: Display test ... not 100% correct?
Hehe, that's just a few ...
Code 0x61, 0x81, 0xA1, 0xC1 and 0xE1 all of them generates a lower case 'a' (the last 4 of them accompanied by a colon .. )
In part 0x80-0x9F is duplicated at 0xC0-0xDF, and 0xA0-0xBF is duplicated at 0xE0-0xFF.
So there is a lot of duplictes in the full byte table ...
Code 0x61, 0x81, 0xA1, 0xC1 and 0xE1 all of them generates a lower case 'a' (the last 4 of them accompanied by a colon .. )
In part 0x80-0x9F is duplicated at 0xC0-0xDF, and 0xA0-0xBF is duplicated at 0xE0-0xFF.
So there is a lot of duplictes in the full byte table ...
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This is the complete character map as I have found it (in the DM41X):
(Note that character 0x2C, 0x2E and 0x3A typically are represented as ',', '.' and ':')
Again, note that all characters in the upper table always are displayed together with a colon, and in multi line [PRGM] mode these characters are displayed with the MSB-bit cleared (eg. character 0xA7 (g) is shown as 0x27 (')) - unless the line is highlighted and [SHIFT] is pressed
The lower table have been extended (compared to the HP41) with all lower case characters, and the three characters 0x7B-0x7D.
There are also 7 new symbols in the upper table that are not present in the lower (0x90-0x95 and 0x97).
So Massimo, as you see, all characters from the table you provided are here, but some at different location(s).
This means that there are actually 5 copies of μ in the table ...
But the all time high winner is Sigma! There are 7 character codes that are presented as Sigma on the DM41X ...
Cheers,
Thomas
(Note that character 0x2C, 0x2E and 0x3A typically are represented as ',', '.' and ':')
Again, note that all characters in the upper table always are displayed together with a colon, and in multi line [PRGM] mode these characters are displayed with the MSB-bit cleared (eg. character 0xA7 (g) is shown as 0x27 (')) - unless the line is highlighted and [SHIFT] is pressed
The lower table have been extended (compared to the HP41) with all lower case characters, and the three characters 0x7B-0x7D.
There are also 7 new symbols in the upper table that are not present in the lower (0x90-0x95 and 0x97).
So Massimo, as you see, all characters from the table you provided are here, but some at different location(s).
This means that there are actually 5 copies of μ in the table ...
But the all time high winner is Sigma! There are 7 character codes that are presented as Sigma on the DM41X ...
Cheers,
Thomas
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Re: Display test ... not 100% correct?
Well, I'm glad they fixed the "non-issue" anyway.rprosperi wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:56 amIt's not an issue at all.toml_12953 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:57 pmIs this a hardware or a software issue?EM41 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:19 pmIt was already reported by Geoff during the beta test viewtopic.php?f=26&t=2448
I think it was the only non resolved "bug".
No issue here.... move along... move along...
Tom L
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Re: Display test ... not 100% correct?
Indeed! Turns out there is a way to have all the lowercase characters while preserving display of upper character (80-FF) as starbursts. So as I said, not an issue at all...toml_12953 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:15 amWell, I'm glad they fixed the "non-issue" anyway.
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