H2X wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:50 pm
Dani R. wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:42 pm
The Shift key is in good hands there, it belongs there, the whole thing is thought through to the end.
So thought I, right until I became aware of the USER mode with the S style shifts... Are they still warranted? Was my guess about layout compatibility correct? Am I missing something?
They don't bother me, I am just a curious spirit.
Hi H2X
Your reference to "
to make the WP43C overlay compatible with the WP43S, which might also make programs interchangeable between them" makes me think that you refer to the HP style keyboard mapping for programmability, which would be deemed broken if the keys do not correspond between calculators. Is that what you referred to or am I missing it?
I cannot say for sure yes or no to that, as I do not know how the programming steps will be stored proceed. That is not in 43S code as yet. I doubt that key locations will be used to store program steps like the old HPs did. The reason that I say that is the ASN & USER mode that the 43S will also have, would break existing programs if you re-assign keys after the programs would be captured. I really don't think they will do that. I think the programming steps will be stored rather as the unique function codes, which are the same in 43C and 43S, except for that additional function I added. But, I do not speak authoritatively, I simply don't know.
Either way, the introduction of these separate f and g keys in USER mode was not done to maintain programming compatibility, rather to offer yet another way of accessing the f and g shifts from an interactive user experience point of view. Personally I love it on the emulator, where the actual keys are changed. With my new template, I hope to be able to report back if the yellow and blue borders work as well in USER mode "U SHFT".
I strongly believe more options to access the same things in the calculator are good. In the same way I offer multiple ways of accessing functions, like the HOME menu gives different access to the same functions arranged by functional type menus, like CPX, EXP, BASE, ...., also like the white no menu keys on top. In the end I like those options to enable you to use whichever way that suits you best. I repeat most functions on keyboard also in menus, where 43S in most (if not all) cases does not repeat functions on the keyboard in menus: Think of their square, square root, DROP, etc.
Jaco Mostert
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