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Re: DM41X

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:02 am
by pcscote
Dani R. wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:30 am
Since the DM41X will be a 41CL, it will handle the HP-IL commands, so...
I am pretty sure that the DM41X will offer a great HP-41 simulation with great extension, but the 41CL is a completely different platform and the above assumption is wrong.

Re: DM41X

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:00 am
by Dani R.
pcscote wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:02 am
Dani R. wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:30 am
Since the DM41X will be a 41CL, it will handle the HP-IL commands, so...
I am pretty sure that the DM41X will offer a great HP-41 simulation with great extension, but the 41CL is a completely different platform and the above assumption is wrong.
You're right, of course. I apologize for the confusion. I have misinterpreted the possibility to load ROM images and automatically conclused on the functionality of the 41CL framework. Which of course is wrong to make such assumptions.
So it is not sure that HP-IL will be supported.

Re: DM41X

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:42 am
by mezoganet
marie wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:12 pm
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Me zo ganet e Brest !

Re: DM41X

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:49 pm
by isene
Dani R. wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:00 am
So it is not sure that HP-IL will be supported.
HP-IL would be great (as it would facilitate connecting to a world of devices) - but my basic requirement is more basic - just any bi-directional programatically manageable link.

Re: DM41X

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:37 pm
by pcscote
isene wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:49 pm
Dani R. wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:00 am
So it is not sure that HP-IL will be supported.
HP-IL would be great (as it would facilitate connecting to a world of devices)
Nothing has been promised for the HP-IL side, but I also agree that it would be wonderful if is was.
The best would be to simulate the HP-IL hardware registers so we could use virtual IL modules (HP-IL, Ext-IL, Ext-IO, Plotter, etc) and then implements what JFG has done with his PIL-Box but in pure software.
isene wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:49 pm
- but my basic requirement is more basic - just any bi-directional programatically manageable link.
Yep, like implementing a USB communications device class (aka RS-232 over USB) and giving it access through a special DM41X Extension ROM, like Monte has done with his 'Yxxx' ROMs on the 41CL or like Antonio with his '-I41CX 30' ROM on his i41CX+ simulator. (although in i41CX+ case the transfer is not over RS-232 but over HTTP instead)

Sylvain

Re: DM41X

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:22 pm
by isene
On reflection, I can easily settle with something even easier.

If I could have two commands on the 41 side, I would be happy: One that can save a text file to a place in the file tree and one that can read such a text file. Because if I have this, I can run a program on the 41 that polls for changes in that file and save what I need from calculations I do and have a polling on the PC side that does the same. A poor man's "serial link" - but it will suffice (for my needs).

Re: DM41X

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:06 pm
by mezoganet
I bought my first HP in 1978, it was an HP33e. I then skipped quickly to the fantastic HP 34c. I finally bought an HP41c late 1979, December if I remember well. Card reader followed one year later.

Today, I have of course a DM41L, but as many of us (?), I don’t like the portrait format. The DM42 is really the best calc I ever used at the time of writing.

Hope the DM41X will give me the maximum !

Michael, If you need beta testers, you can put me on the list.

PS : a DM15L is on its way, it should arrive by the end of this week.

Re: DM41X

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:45 pm
by toml_12953
mezoganet wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:06 pm
I bought my first HP in 1978, it was an HP33e. I then skipped quickly to the fantastic HP 34c. I finally bought an HP41c late 1979, December if I remember well. Card reader followed one year later.

Today, I have of course a DM41L, but as many of us (?), I don’t like the portrait format.
Did you mean you don't like the landscape format?

Re: DM41X

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:50 pm
by mezoganet
toml_12953 wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:45 pm
mezoganet wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:06 pm
I bought my first HP in 1978, it was an HP33e. I then skipped quickly to the fantastic HP 34c. I finally bought an HP41c late 1979, December if I remember well. Card reader followed one year later.

Today, I have of course a DM41L, but as many of us (?), I don’t like the portrait format.
Did you mean you don't like the landscape format? :oops:
Exactly and forever :cry:

Re: DM41X

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:57 pm
by mezoganet
mezoganet wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:50 pm
toml_12953 wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:45 pm
mezoganet wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:06 pm
I bought my first HP in 1978, it was an HP33e. I then skipped quickly to the fantastic HP 34c. I finally bought an HP41c late 1979, December if I remember well. Card reader followed one year later.

Today, I have of course a DM41L, but as many of us (?), I don’t like the portrait format.
Did you mean you don't like the landscape format? :oops:
Exactly and forever :cry:
Oh it’s just ok for an HP12c but NEVER for an HP41, never... not enough comfortable. I just can’t find my fingers.

Anyway it’s a very good clone, but just a clone. Nothing will give me back the “touch” of a real HP41... Except perhaps then forthcoming DM41X... wait and see.