C47 Classic single shift, replaces C43 on DM42

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Re: C43 continuous improvement --> C47 Classic single shift, replaces C43 on DM42

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Jaymos wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:59 am
rudi wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:55 am
Thanks for the explanation Jaco. I had missed that, probably because I would never "sacrifice" the [COS] and [TAN] keys. I can easily live with the double shift, which I actually find quite smart ;-)
That double shift is the "enabler", the brainchild of your next door neighbour up north .... H2 from NO.
:lol:

Norwegians and Danes are closely related native scandinavians, no wonder H2 came up with such a bright idea!
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Re: C43 continuous improvement --> C47 Classic single shift, replaces C43 on DM42

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rudi wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:38 am
Jaymos wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:59 am
rudi wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:55 am
Thanks for the explanation Jaco. I had missed that, probably because I would never "sacrifice" the [COS] and [TAN] keys. I can easily live with the double shift, which I actually find quite smart ;-)
That double shift is the "enabler", the brainchild of your next door neighbour up north .... H2 from NO.
:lol:

Norwegians and Danes are closely related native scandinavians, no wonder H2 came up with such a bright idea!
Vi kan til og med forstå hverandre. I hvert fall når vi skriver... :lol:
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Re: C43 continuous improvement --> C47 Classic single shift, replaces C43 on DM42

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H2X wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:46 am
rudi wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:38 am
Jaymos wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:59 am


That double shift is the "enabler", the brainchild of your next door neighbour up north .... H2 from NO.
:lol:

Norwegians and Danes are closely related native scandinavians, no wonder H2 came up with such a bright idea!
Vi kan til og med forstå hverandre. I hvert fall når vi skriver... :lol:
Ja, jeg mødte engang en fra Lofoten, vi blev enige om, at det nok var bedst at vi talte engelsk sammen :lol:
/Rudi

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Re: C43 continuous improvement --> C47 Classic single shift, replaces C43 on DM42

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rudi wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:12 pm
Ja, jeg mødte engang en fra Lofoten, vi blev enige om, at det nok var bedst at vi talte engelsk sammen :lol:
Det må jeg også, når jeg møter noen fra Lofoten... Neida, bare tullet. Jeg er opprinnelig fra Nord-Norge selv. ;)
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Re: C43 continuous improvement --> C47 Classic single shift, replaces C43 on DM42

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Lofoten were special already 48 years ago, but we were perfectly understood speaking English there ;)
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Re: C43 continuous improvement --> C47 Classic single shift, replaces C43 on DM42

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Walter wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:32 pm
Lofoten were special already 48 years ago, but we were perfectly understood speaking English there ;)
It goes way back - https://www.babbel.com/en/magazine/139-norse-words ;)
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Re: C43 continuous improvement --> C47 Classic single shift, replaces C43 on DM42

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I have fond memories of a 4 weeks trip 30 years ago through Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Norway up to the Lofoten.
Starting from Paris, when we arrived at Oslo we were just halfway to the Lofoten.
It was early July, above the polar circle, and swimming in the Norwegian sea under the sun in the middle of the night was quite a unique experience.
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Re: C43 continuous improvement --> C47 Classic single shift, replaces C43 on DM42

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Sorry to disturb your discussion...
Jaymos wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:58 am
E47: (Engineer). Here the two shift keys are above the ENTER key. There is no calculator in SwissMicros’ portfolio with such an arrangement of the shift keys. This is an interesting variation on the C47 for people who can’t get used to a single shift key. We think that the E47 will not be a candidate for a Community Calculator from SwissMicros.
I like the idea of having [f] and [g] at the location of [STO] and [RCL].
In this scenario, the yellow key becomes RCL and a double press on it does STO.
If you offer the possibility to assign [f] and [g] to any key (or at least to [STO] and [RCL]) and to reassign the yellow key to something else, I’ll glady test it.

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Re: C43 continuous improvement --> C47 Classic single shift, replaces C43 on DM42

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These proofs of concept of the various layouts are only included in the simulator. There are currently no plans to offer these layouts for testing on the DM42. One of the main reasons is that the primary key layout is no longer identical to the DM42. You can't just work with an overlay, you would have to work with sticky labels. We don't want that.

In the KEYS menu you will find the different layouts. ATTENTION: If you select one, the USER mode is also activated. So when testing the layouts, a predefined pattern is simply placed on all key positions. With the function K.RESET the layout can be "deleted" again. Alternatively, the selected layout can also be deactivated simply by switching off the USER mode.
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Re: C43 continuous improvement --> C47 Classic single shift, replaces C43 on DM42

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I understand, but users may use overlay of their own and stickers if they want. The C47 already offer advanced options of customization. Why not the possibility to move [f] and [g] too?

Anyway, this is how I see the E47.
Quite an exciting idea!
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