In my experience with the WP34S & C key labels creation, the fonts are a mix and match from different fonts. This very fact and the resulting collection of non-matching fonts on one calculator probably would give a real typesetter of old a cardiac arrest
Most glyphs from existing fonts do not match and would need a bit of manual tweaking. I did the glyph manipulation per button directly in Coreldraw, after converting from the closest matched font I could find to curves. I initially tried to use Inkscape for this (I was initially insisting on a free product) but in the end gave up and succumbed to Corel and used the free Coreldraw demo to finalise my design.
This resulted in WP34S above key which is the above key emulator graphic and similar to my own prints of the WP34S key stickers and above key labels.
The X<>Y button that you refer to was I made in the same process. In my opinion, editing the curves in Corel is a solution that will get you to your intended copy of the HP key.
If important, I could check what my starting font was for this one, but it is a Pages file, and must first return home to my Mac to check that.
Who knows HP's keyboard fonts?
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Jaco Mostert
Elec Eng, South Africa
https://47calc.com C47 (s/n 03818 & 06199), WP43 (0015). In box: HP42S, HP32Sii, WP34S&C, HP28C, HP35s, EL-506P, EL-W506, PB700; ex: FX702P, 11C, HP67 & HP85; iOS: 42s Byron, Free42+, WP31S/34S, HCalc.
Elec Eng, South Africa
https://47calc.com C47 (s/n 03818 & 06199), WP43 (0015). In box: HP42S, HP32Sii, WP34S&C, HP28C, HP35s, EL-506P, EL-W506, PB700; ex: FX702P, 11C, HP67 & HP85; iOS: 42s Byron, Free42+, WP31S/34S, HCalc.
Re: Who knows HP's keyboard fonts?
Thanks for the information. For many years, I don't have major problems with pixels graphics anymore - with sufficient dedication and patience (and some training) one can create everything including entire keyboards, even with basic tools like PAINT. The challenge starts when I need vector graphics for any reason whatsoever; then real fonts are required AFAIK.
WP43 SN00000, 34S, and 31S for obvious reasons; HP-35, 45, ..., 35S, 15CE, DM16L S/N# 00093, DM42β SN:00041
Re: Who knows HP's keyboard fonts?
The Convert to curves method that I refer to above, converts the constituent vectors of a ttf glyph to ordinary vectors on your layout, which can effortlessly be modified as vectors as you would modify any other shape.Walter wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:13 pmThanks for the information. For many years, I don't have major problems with pixels graphics anymore - with sufficient dedication and patience (and some training) one can create everything including entire keyboards, even with basic tools like PAINT. The challenge starts when I need vector graphics for any reason whatsoever; then real fonts are required AFAIK.
Jaco Mostert
Elec Eng, South Africa
https://47calc.com C47 (s/n 03818 & 06199), WP43 (0015). In box: HP42S, HP32Sii, WP34S&C, HP28C, HP35s, EL-506P, EL-W506, PB700; ex: FX702P, 11C, HP67 & HP85; iOS: 42s Byron, Free42+, WP31S/34S, HCalc.
Elec Eng, South Africa
https://47calc.com C47 (s/n 03818 & 06199), WP43 (0015). In box: HP42S, HP32Sii, WP34S&C, HP28C, HP35s, EL-506P, EL-W506, PB700; ex: FX702P, 11C, HP67 & HP85; iOS: 42s Byron, Free42+, WP31S/34S, HCalc.
Re: Who knows HP's keyboard fonts?
Aha. Thanks. Reminds me on our analysis professor who used to tell us every once and a while "This proof is trivial - you can do it at home effortlessly."
WP43 SN00000, 34S, and 31S for obvious reasons; HP-35, 45, ..., 35S, 15CE, DM16L S/N# 00093, DM42β SN:00041
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Re: Who knows HP's keyboard fonts?
Another solution is to use two characters and apply kerning. Below, I used a Unicode right dart arrow and left dart arrow. I set the right arrow as superscript and the left arrow as subscript. I then applied kerning of 8 pts:
DM42: β00043, β00065, 00357 / DM41X: β00054, 00445 / DM32: β00278
DM10L: 017/100, DM11L: 00121, DM12L: 02005, DM15L: 00523, DM16L: 00008, DM41L: 00111
DM10L: 017/100, DM11L: 00121, DM12L: 02005, DM15L: 00523, DM16L: 00008, DM41L: 00111
Re: Who knows HP's keyboard fonts?
Thanks, Mark. Although, ...Mark Hardman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:06 amAnother solution is to use two characters and apply kerning. Below, I used a Unicode right dart arrow and left dart arrow. I set the right arrow as superscript and the left arrow as subscript. I then applied kerning of 8 pts:
1. Can't find your both dart arrows. Unicode? Font?
2. How do you apply kerning?
WP43 SN00000, 34S, and 31S for obvious reasons; HP-35, 45, ..., 35S, 15CE, DM16L S/N# 00093, DM42β SN:00041
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Re: Who knows HP's keyboard fonts?
Unicode: U+2B9C and U+2B9E
MS Wingdings 3: 0x85 and 0x86
Kerning needs to be supported by your application. In MS Turd it is on the advanced tab of the font properties dialog.
DM42: β00043, β00065, 00357 / DM41X: β00054, 00445 / DM32: β00278
DM10L: 017/100, DM11L: 00121, DM12L: 02005, DM15L: 00523, DM16L: 00008, DM41L: 00111
DM10L: 017/100, DM11L: 00121, DM12L: 02005, DM15L: 00523, DM16L: 00008, DM41L: 00111
Re: Who knows HP's keyboard fonts?
Thanks a lot! I didn't know of this opportunity in MS Turd ( ) so I learned something new here.Mark Hardman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:39 amUnicode: U+2B9C and U+2B9E
MS Wingdings 3: 0x85 and 0x86
Kerning needs to be supported by your application. In MS Turd it is on the advanced tab of the font properties dialog.
WP43 SN00000, 34S, and 31S for obvious reasons; HP-35, 45, ..., 35S, 15CE, DM16L S/N# 00093, DM42β SN:00041
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Re: Who knows HP's keyboard fonts?
In my experience, that usually means, "I cannot remember how to do the proof, so you go away and do it so I don't have to embarrass myself in front of you trying to work it out."
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Re: Who knows HP's keyboard fonts?
Hey, Fermat made a note in the margin of his paper that the proof of his famous Last Theorem was simple but too long to include there. It took about 358 years to prove that "simple" theorem. Talk about, "The proof is left as an exercise for the student" !keithdalby wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:31 pmIn my experience, that usually means, "I cannot remember how to do the proof, so you go away and do it so I don't have to embarrass myself in front of you trying to work it out."
Tom L
Some people call me inept but I'm as ept as anybody!
DM10L SN: 059/100
DM41X SN: 00023 (Beta)
DM41X SN: 00506 (Shipping)
DM42 SN: 00025 (Beta)
DM42 SN: 00221 (Shipping)
WP43 SN: 00025 (Prototype)
Some people call me inept but I'm as ept as anybody!
DM10L SN: 059/100
DM41X SN: 00023 (Beta)
DM41X SN: 00506 (Shipping)
DM42 SN: 00025 (Beta)
DM42 SN: 00221 (Shipping)
WP43 SN: 00025 (Prototype)