I understand now. I am not familiar with the 41C terminology. So we agree to not labour the f[BSP] thing?Dani R. wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:48 pmThese are things that we have already mentioned. If you are in NIM you can't call CLX/A just like that ( on the HP-41C this function is on f[BSP]). I had thought that if F6 is free, you can find this function there. But actually I got used to cancel the NIM with EXIT a long time ago and afterwards the key [BSP] has the functionality CLX.
Let me explain my need for the white functions in a 'no menu' situation. I use my physical 43C very often in my workplace, and often I need a basic RPN calculator only with complex number math, trigonometry, R<>P, |x| and angle, squares and roots. I often set my calculator to SIG 3, DSTACK 3, and I remove all menus and I can go about whole day at work without needing one menu. I like that. For that reason I want the clutter free screen with 3 lines XYZ only, and all the functions I need on the keyboard. All of that is in the basic 43C without menus.
Is there any other calculator out there with all these functions on the keyboard? And the majority unshifted?
About your point that it should never happen to have a no menu screen:
Our settings at the moment does not allow for enough options. At the moment the settings is a CheckBox in CFG which says "HOME". This is for the base menu but is not yet implemented. If the setting is set, then there will be no empty screen, and H|OME will always be the lowest level menu. If it is not set, then MyMenu will do that (once MyMenu is done by 43S).
That does not allow for the status quo now, i.e. to have the no menu blank screen. To do that I need another setting as follows: This can be solved easily by changing the existing CheckBox ‘HOME’, to a radiobutton with 'HOME/MyMenu/Blank' options. This way, the different user needs can be set per user. The difference between these 3 are only what happens when you press EXIT repeatedly. It either stays on HOME, or it stays on MyMenu, or blanks.
Let's hear some opinions.
I tested the caps lock vs. up/dn changing menus and case, again, and both work well. (That is after I fixed a bug in my code which prevented case change when AlphaHOME is open).
At this point I will keep both methods, as they do not interfere with one another, until I get more comments on who prefers which.