WP43 Alternative key layout --> C43

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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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Progress update release - mostly under the hood improvements, and responses to bug reports.

The C43 version 108_04 update is here, on the C43 download page. Scroll down to the yellow link, 108_04.

As usual we have the non-qspi C43 version, the full qspi C43 version and the (unofficial) non-qspi WP43S DM42 USER mode non-keymap version (WP43S was not updated this time and last week's version is included for completeness).

For a long time now there have been arbitrary test constants in the registers from 10 to 20. There are some long integer constants for the sum of cubes, some known long integer primes and following on the pi thing last week, interesting are the long integer numbers in R19 and R20, see below.

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RCL 18 RCL 19 RCL 20 / f[𝜋] - 
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Note the MyMenu default allocation shown at the bottom of the screen grab: I am testing to determine whether there is sense in replacing the default F1 MyMenu key allocation (currently Σ-) with DRG for angle input and instant mode changes. I am not decided yet.
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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BINUBALL wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:11 pm
And weird behavior with keyboard action.. (on simulator :D)

We can long-press function key to get f-menu and g-menu. (f/g + function key, idk I explained correctly) Assuming I want to get g-menu, I can get it with press and hold mouse click but not with keyboard F1-F6. Long pressing F1 only can select f-menu, showing flashing line.
While editing equation, long-pressing function key doesn't work.
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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Jaymos wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:43 pm
The current version has 4 demo buttons, i.e. FB00, FB01, FB02 and FB03. These simply flip the related bit, similar to the standard "FB nn" command. The question is simply, do we "use" 3½ additional menu screens to provide these "lazy" shortcuts FB00..FB63, or do we delete all these shortcuts.

In my opinion, I think we should ditch all these shortcuts FB00 etc.

Ideas?
Personally and for what it's worth, I doubt I'd ever use that on a calculator (if I ever use FB at all). Either way, it seems to me that the other operations in that menu better deserve the shift-less positions.
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BINUBALL wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:59 am
BINUBALL wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:11 pm
And weird behavior with keyboard action.. (on simulator :D)

We can long-press function key to get f-menu and g-menu. (f/g + function key, idk I explained correctly) Assuming I want to get g-menu, I can get it with press and hold mouse click but not with keyboard F1-F6. Long pressing F1 only can select f-menu, showing flashing line.
While editing equation, long-pressing function key doesn't work.
Could you please record the sequence of keys that gives this result. The reason I ask is if I do the following on hardware (108_04 qspi) and sim (108_04), it works:

g[CLR] g[RESET] f[EQN] [NEW]
Longpress F2 to reach √ results in \(√()\), then x ENTER results in a formula of \(√(x)\).
[Solver] 0 [x] 1 [x] [Draw] reaches the usual graph and all seems to work.
Jaco Mostert
Elec Eng, South Africa
https://47calc.com C47 (s/n 03818 & 06199), WP43 (0015). In box: HP42S, HP32Sii, WP34S&C, HP28C, HP35s, EL-506P, EL-W506, PB700; ex: FX702P, 11C, HP67 & HP85; iOS: 42s Byron, Free42+, WP31S/34S, HCalc.
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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redglyph wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:44 am
Jaymos wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:43 pm
The current version has 4 demo buttons, i.e. FB00, FB01, FB02 and FB03. These simply flip the related bit, similar to the standard "FB nn" command. The question is simply, do we "use" 3½ additional menu screens to provide these "lazy" shortcuts FB00..FB63, or do we delete all these shortcuts.

In my opinion, I think we should ditch all these shortcuts FB00 etc.

Ideas?
Personally and for what it's worth, I doubt I'd ever use that on a calculator (if I ever use FB at all). Either way, it seems to me that the other operations in that menu better deserve the shift-less positions.
Any other takers?
Jaco Mostert
Elec Eng, South Africa
https://47calc.com C47 (s/n 03818 & 06199), WP43 (0015). In box: HP42S, HP32Sii, WP34S&C, HP28C, HP35s, EL-506P, EL-W506, PB700; ex: FX702P, 11C, HP67 & HP85; iOS: 42s Byron, Free42+, WP31S/34S, HCalc.
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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Jaymos wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:32 am
redglyph wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:44 am
Jaymos wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:43 pm
The current version has 4 demo buttons, i.e. FB00, FB01, FB02 and FB03. These simply flip the related bit, similar to the standard "FB nn" command. The question is simply, do we "use" 3½ additional menu screens to provide these "lazy" shortcuts FB00..FB63, or do we delete all these shortcuts.

In my opinion, I think we should ditch all these shortcuts FB00 etc.

Ideas?
Personally and for what it's worth, I doubt I'd ever use that on a calculator (if I ever use FB at all). Either way, it seems to me that the other operations in that menu better deserve the shift-less positions.
Any other takers?
Redundant. Ditch.
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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H2X wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:03 pm
Jaymos wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:32 am
redglyph wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:44 am


Personally and for what it's worth, I doubt I'd ever use that on a calculator (if I ever use FB at all). Either way, it seems to me that the other operations in that menu better deserve the shift-less positions.
Any other takers?
Redundant. Ditch.
👍
Jaco Mostert
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https://47calc.com C47 (s/n 03818 & 06199), WP43 (0015). In box: HP42S, HP32Sii, WP34S&C, HP28C, HP35s, EL-506P, EL-W506, PB700; ex: FX702P, 11C, HP67 & HP85; iOS: 42s Byron, Free42+, WP31S/34S, HCalc.
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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Jaymos wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:31 am
BINUBALL wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:59 am
BINUBALL wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:11 pm
And weird behavior with keyboard action.. (on simulator :D)

We can long-press function key to get f-menu and g-menu. (f/g + function key, idk I explained correctly) Assuming I want to get g-menu, I can get it with press and hold mouse click but not with keyboard F1-F6. Long pressing F1 only can select f-menu, showing flashing line.
While editing equation, long-pressing function key doesn't work.
Could you please record the sequence of keys that gives this result. The reason I ask is if I do the following on hardware (108_04 qspi) and sim (108_04), it works:

g[CLR] g[RESET] f[EQN] [NEW]
Longpress F2 to reach √ results in \(√()\), then x ENTER results in a formula of \(√(x)\).
[Solver] 0 [x] 1 [x] [Draw] reaches the usual graph and all seems to work.
I'm using version 108_04 simulator on windows 10 and can't reach √ by longpress F2. Pressing F2 only inserts ^ immediately.
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BINUBALL wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:54 pm
Jaymos wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:31 am
BINUBALL wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:59 am


While editing equation, long-pressing function key doesn't work.
Could you please record the sequence of keys that gives this result. The reason I ask is if I do the following on hardware (108_04 qspi) and sim (108_04), it works:

g[CLR] g[RESET] f[EQN] [NEW]
Longpress F2 to reach √ results in \(√()\), then x ENTER results in a formula of \(√(x)\).
[Solver] 0 [x] 1 [x] [Draw] reaches the usual graph and all seems to work.
I'm using version 108_04 simulator on windows 10 and can't reach √ by longpress F2. Pressing F2 only inserts ^ immediately.
Bug replicated your way. Thanks. Will fix.
Jaco Mostert
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https://47calc.com C47 (s/n 03818 & 06199), WP43 (0015). In box: HP42S, HP32Sii, WP34S&C, HP28C, HP35s, EL-506P, EL-W506, PB700; ex: FX702P, 11C, HP67 & HP85; iOS: 42s Byron, Free42+, WP31S/34S, HCalc.
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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Jaymos wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:19 pm
H2X wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:03 pm
Jaymos wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:32 am


Any other takers?
Redundant. Ditch.
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Fine with me!
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