43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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Perfectly OK with me! :-)

Is ≈I an alternative? Just playing around now...
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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Yes, ≈I is an interesting option, especially since the 43S compatible ROUNDI will still exist - the key icon can be what we like.

RI does sort of loose its meaning after an hour or two where the ≈I does not. I like it.

Any takers?

[RND], [RI] or [≈I] ?

Here a mockup to see.
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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Maybe another alternative, given the context of other labels (e.g. [a b/c] and [.d]):

[a.]
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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H2X wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:56 pm
Maybe another alternative, given the context of other labels (e.g. [.d]):

[a.]
I do not like that one.
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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Jaymos wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:59 pm
Yes, ≈I is an interesting option, especially since the 43S compatible ROUNDI will still exist - the key icon can be what we like.
...
Can't we have "->Int" ?
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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. b/c could become "->b/c"
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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RAPo wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:27 pm
Jaymos wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:59 pm
Yes, ≈I is an interesting option, especially since the 43S compatible ROUNDI will still exist - the key icon can be what we like.
...
Can't we have "->Int" ?
With this process, one of my drives is to shorten the text above the [Σ+] button, and [->INT] is not shorter than [RND] or [RNDI]. If we had a short label on blue maybe, but there is is not short, i.e. [a b/c] is there. (Your last post refers: I do not want to change the [a b/c] as there is already another mode [d/c] being toggled by this button (Standard 43S functionality) and I do not want to depart from the 43S manual (p146/320) in this instance.)

So, I am targeting the shorter [RI], or [≈I], I could include here, or based on your idea also [->I].

What I do like about the [≈I] of Haakon, is the fact that it is graphically indicating an approximation of a kind.
The arrow [->I] is definitely an option, depending on more comments.
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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but how can something be approximately an int? Either is or it isn't ;-)
I vote for "->I".
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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Another option would be to have ->N, with N the mathematical notion for natural numbers.
I know you won't want to change ab/d, but in this vain it could become ->Q with Q the mathematical notation for the rationals.
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Re: 43S Alternative key layout --> WP43C

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RAPo wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:04 pm
Another option would be to have ->N, with N the mathematical notion for natural numbers.
I know you won't want to change ab/d, but in this vain it could become ->Q with Q the mathematical notation for the rationals.
Maybe a glyph for the arrow to save space? I agree that the concept is more of a conversion than an approximation.
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