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Re: Keyboard debouncing

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:15 am
by StreakyCobra
keithdalby wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:16 pm
:shock: so to save you pressing extra unnecessary buttons, you press extra unnecessary buttons?

Nope, I cannot connect the dots here.
It's not about pressing unnecessary button, it's about not knowing beforehand if another number or an operand will follow.
keithdalby wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:18 pm
I think I must just be old-school but reaching for the calculator is the last stage in my thinking. Wouldn't dream of plugging numbers in without a clear vision of what I'm doing with them.
I don't think it is about being old-school, different people have different way of working. Of course when there is a clear vision beforehand this "trick" is not needed, but when I do my thinking "in live" this is useful.

Re: Keyboard debouncing

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:14 am
by Walter
StreakyCobra wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:15 am
keithdalby wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:16 pm
:shock: so to save you pressing extra unnecessary buttons, you press extra unnecessary buttons?

Nope, I cannot connect the dots here.
It's not about pressing unnecessary button, it's about not knowing beforehand if another number or an operand will follow.
Until you know what will follow, simply leave the numeric input open ... :roll:
StreakyCobra wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:15 am
keithdalby wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:18 pm
I think I must just be old-school but reaching for the calculator is the last stage in my thinking. Wouldn't dream of plugging numbers in without a clear vision of what I'm doing with them.
I don't think it is about being old-school, different people have different way of working. Of course when there is a clear vision beforehand this "trick" is not needed, but when I do my thinking "in live" this is useful.
Different people may have different ways in their lifes ... but see above. :mrgreen:

Re: Keyboard debouncing

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:59 pm
by Over_score
Walter wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:14 am
Until you know what will follow, simply leave the numeric input open ... :roll:
+1

Re: Keyboard debouncing

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:31 pm
by keithdalby
Walter wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:14 am
Until you know what will follow, simply leave the numeric input open ... :roll:
I'm just baffled by using EXIT for the reasons presented here. I don't see the point. None of the 'advantages' presented here are of benefit to me at all.

Maybe other folk find using EXIT in these ways helpful. If so, good for you.

But I don't get it.

Re: Keyboard debouncing

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:48 pm
by ijabbott
keithdalby wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:31 pm
Walter wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:14 am
Until you know what will follow, simply leave the numeric input open ... :roll:
I'm just baffled by using EXIT for the reasons presented here. I don't see the point. None of the 'advantages' presented here are of benefit to me at all.

Maybe other folk find using EXIT in these ways helpful. If so, good for you.

But I don't get it.
No-one's forcing you to use it! You could put a "NOP" sticker over it if it helps! :D

Re: Keyboard debouncing

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:03 pm
by keithdalby
It already has a sensible label.

Re: Keyboard debouncing

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:14 am
by Rmollov
keithdalby wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:03 pm
It already has a sensible label.
Sure. It's what meaning one puts to it. It may be "EXIT operation of inputting a number" for example. Besides it is at convenient location to terminate an entry - rather that travelling all the way to the ENTER. Now I started thinking of EXIT as ENTER without stack lift - what exactly is your problem with that?

I personally prefer using SPC on HP48 instead of ENTER on multiple number input which gives me the opportunity to check and immediately correct it.
EXIT on HP42 is kinda similar, RPN imitation of RPL style entry.

Cheers,

Re: Keyboard debouncing

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:21 am
by Over_score
Rmollov wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:14 am
"EXIT operation of inputting a number"
It's like clicking Start to shut down a PC!

Re: Keyboard debouncing

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:46 am
by Walter
Over_score wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:21 am
Rmollov wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:14 am
"EXIT operation of inputting a number"
It's like clicking Start to shut down a PC!
:lol: You cant beat a good user interface design!

Re: Keyboard debouncing

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:06 am
by Rmollov
Over_score wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:21 am
Rmollov wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:14 am
"EXIT operation of inputting a number"
It's like clicking Start to shut down a PC!
Is it how you read it? Very funny :) Do you do stand-up comedy for living?

Cheers,