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Re: UPDATE: DMCP-3.22 / DM42-3.20

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:03 am
by rprosperi
If you want to downgrade (which is safe, if done properly) then be sure to use the combo DMCP+DM42 f/w images, most easily done with the dm_tool utility, which guarantees you are installing the proper matching DMCP and DM42 applications. Mixing apps and DMCP versions not intended to work together can lead to... well, unsatisfying circumstances.

Re: UPDATE: DMCP-3.22 / DM42-3.20

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:29 am
by Thomas_ER
@Didier & Bob.
Thanks so much to both of you!

edit:
I reverted to DMCP_flash_3.21_DM42-3.18.bin and checked the battery voltage display behavior,
reported at viewtopic.php?p=21537#p21537 by peet.
Result: same behavior, so it's definitly not caused by DMCP-3.22 / DM42-3.20.

Thanks for the help!

Re: UPDATE: DMCP-3.22 / DM42-3.20

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:21 pm
by Nissen
I have observed the same behaviour.
However, it gives you an advantage: If you perform an operation on the DM42 that causes a heavy current drain on the battery and then reverts to a low current state of the calculator where the voltage indicator i visible, you can thereby get an impression of the state of your battery before the voltage indicator reverts to low current drain voltage.
Regards, Nissen

Re: UPDATE: DMCP-3.22 / DM42-3.20

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:59 pm
by Thomas_ER
Nissen wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:21 pm
I have observed the same behaviour.
However, it gives you an advantage: If you perform an operation on the DM42 that causes a heavy current drain on the battery and then reverts to a low current state of the calculator where the voltage indicator i visible, you can thereby get an impression of the state of your battery before the voltage indicator reverts to low current drain voltage.
Regards, Nissen
do you mean: "It's not a bug, ... it's a feature"?

Re: UPDATE: DMCP-3.22 / DM42-3.20

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:36 pm
by Nissen
I simply mean, that you can take advantage of this behaviour, whether it is a bug or not.
We better ask Michael for an explanation.
Regards, Nissen

Re: UPDATE: DMCP-3.22 / DM42-3.20

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:21 pm
by Thomas_ER
Nissen wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:36 pm
I simply mean, that you can take advantage of this behaviour, whether it is a bug or not.
We better ask Michael for an explanation.
Regards, Nissen
Done (I have asked).
They could not find an error, and the mentioned downgrade to the previous release confirmed this.

Nevertheless, for me it remains a phenomenon that the voltage displayed
just rises again at the minute change, after each repeated call from 'Setup' & exit
dropped the (displayed) voltage by a small amount.

But we can end the guesswork, I suspect there will be no new findings.
Regards, Thomas

Re: UPDATE: DMCP-3.22 / DM42-3.20

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:09 am
by Nissen
There is another possibility: That the bug/issue/phenomenon/problem is a design flaw in the ST Microelectronics microcontroller. If so, there is very little we can do.
Regards, Nissen
PS: According to SwissMicros, the DM41X uses the same microcontroller and hardware as the DM42.
Is the issue also present in the DM41X?

Re: UPDATE: DMCP-3.22 / DM42-3.20

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:11 am
by Peet
Nissen wrote:
Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:09 am
Is the issue also present in the DM41X?
The 41x can not show the voltage. But it seems so. During the beep, the battery indicator on my 41x loses a bar, which then reappears.

Re: UPDATE: DMCP-3.22 / DM42-3.20

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:01 pm
by toml_12953
Nissen wrote:
Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:09 am
There is another possibility: That the bug/issue/phenomenon/problem is a design flaw in the ST Microelectronics microcontroller. If so, there is very little we can do.
Regards, Nissen
The software could ignore readings that lasted for less than a fixed interval of time so transients like this wouldn't show up.

Re: UPDATE: DMCP-3.22 / DM42-3.20

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:11 am
by Vitasam
Hi,
is this a bug? I Am trying to save a program and in the UI screen of adding a filename I do not see letters on soft-menu buttons, just empty rectangles.

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FW: DMCP v.3.22, DM42 v3.20