[MIN],[MAX] and [FIND]...how to?

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mcc
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[MIN],[MAX] and [FIND]...how to?

Post by mcc » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:16 am

Hi,

The Free42 calculator of Thomas Okken even includes functions, which HP does not made public... :)
The new Free42 version 2.50.20, which was released recently, made those easy accesible via the function
catalog now...they were "hidden" previously.

I tried those on my DM42 and did not get any results...I am unsure, whether they were included (but "hidden")
or not at all in the current firmware build or whether I am the reason for it.

For the [FIND] function I did this:
Create a named matrix (2x2) and fill them with 11,13,17,19
RCL it on the stack (x).
17 ENTER (x, matrix is on y now)
XEQ "[FIND]"
Response: "Not existent".

The link to Joseph K. Horns findings regarding these function is dead in the Free42 pdf but can be found here:
https://archived.hpcalc.org/hp42s/docs/ ... tions.html
...but I obviously didn't understand those correctly.

Background: Until a new firmware for the DM42 is released, which may include the newest Free42 code I want to place
those three functions into the CUSTOM menu...

Any help how to use these functions is very appreciated...thank you :)

Cheers
mcc
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Re: [MIN],[MAX] and [FIND]...how to?

Post by whuyse » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:39 am

I don't quite understand what more help you need apart from Joe's very extensive documentation of these functions?
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Re: [MIN],[MAX] and [FIND]...how to?

Post by firai » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:52 am

The functions are documented at https://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-8887.html. I believe you need to INDEX the matrix (under the MATRIX menu) before you execute [FIND].

Edit: I just tested this in Free42 Windows. The [FIND] function doesn't seem to work with a matrix that's only on the stack; you need to first STO the matrix and then INDEX it as documented by Joe Horn. The matrix that's been most recently indexed is the one that [FIND] will try to search in.
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Re: [MIN],[MAX] and [FIND]...how to?

Post by Thomas Okken » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:26 am

mcc wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:16 am
For the [FIND] function I did this:
Create a named matrix (2x2) and fill them with 11,13,17,19
RCL it on the stack (x).
17 ENTER (x, matrix is on y now)
XEQ "[FIND]"
Response: "Not existent".
Try again without the ENTER...

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Re: [MIN],[MAX] and [FIND]...how to?

Post by grsbanks » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:36 am

mcc wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:16 am
For the [FIND] function I did this:
Create a named matrix (2x2) and fill them with 11,13,17,19
RCL it on the stack (x).
17 ENTER (x, matrix is on y now)
No it isn't

17 is in X and Y and the matrix is in Z.
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Re: [MIN],[MAX] and [FIND]...how to?

Post by mcc » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:56 pm

Hi,

Thanks for the help! It works now. I missed the INDEX and ENTER was supferfluos.

Cheers!
mcc

PS: Thanks for the link to that thread! :)
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Re: [MIN],[MAX] and [FIND]...how to?

Post by whuyse » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:52 pm

firai wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:52 am
Edit: I just tested this in Free42 Windows. The [FIND] function doesn't seem to work with a matrix that's only on the stack; you need to first STO the matrix and then INDEX it as documented by Joe Horn. The matrix that's been most recently indexed is the one that [FIND] will try to search in.
You can EDIT the matrix in the stack, and then [FIND] etc will work. Remember to exit the editor with EXITALL though.

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Re: [MIN],[MAX] and [FIND]...how to?

Post by firai » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:21 pm

whuyse wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:52 pm
You can EDIT the matrix in the stack, and then [FIND] etc will work. Remember to exit the editor with EXITALL though.

Cheers, Werner
Do you mean executing the functions while the matrix editor is active, or going into the editor, exiting and then executing the functions? I can execute the functions while the matrix editor is active, but the result that would otherwise be written to the X register for MAX and MIN seems to replace the current matrix entry, and [FIND] always returns "yes".

If I exit out of the editor, even with EXITALL, the functions don't seem to work unless the matrix is explicitly indexed. This seems to be consistent with the 42S manual's suggestion that the matrix is no longer indexed once you exit out of the editor. Am I missing something here? Is there another way of executing the functions without explicitly indexing the matrix?
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Re: [MIN],[MAX] and [FIND]...how to?

Post by whuyse » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:28 am

An example says more than a thousand words ;-)
Create the matrix
[[ 4 5 6 ]
[ 7 8 9 ]
[ 1 2 3 ]]

Then:

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>LBL "M"
 EDIT
 Rv
 [MAX]
 RCLEL
 EXITALL
 Rv
 END
will produce the max of the first column of the matrix, with its row value in Y.
You are EDITing the matrix, so EXITALL will write whatever is in X into the current position, that's what the RCLEL is for.

With the same matrix in Y and the element to search for in X:

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>LBL "F1"
 X<>Y
 EDIT
 Rv
 [FIND]
 GTO 00
 0
 ENTER
 GTO 01
 LBL 00
 RCLIJ
 LBL 01
 COMPLEX
 RCLEL
 EXITALL
 Rv
 END
eg [[]] 7 F1 returns (2,1)

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Re: [MIN],[MAX] and [FIND]...how to?

Post by firai » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:35 pm

Thanks for the examples! RCLEL was the missing link; I somehow skipped the page in the manual where it was introduced. I should RTFM harder. :roll:
Sam

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