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Re: DM42 User Manual

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:34 pm
by gruensucher
gelöscht!

Re: DM42 User Manual

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:48 pm
by Thomas Okken
Reading the on-line manual, I noticed that it says Mac users can install dfu-util using Homebrew. Could that be changed to mention that it can also be installed using MacPorts?

I personally don't like Homebrew's approach to managing permissions. MacPorts follows the more conservative approach of "must be root to install stuff." Homebrew may be what the cool kids use, but MacPorts deserves to be recognized as well.

Re: DM42 User Manual

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:45 pm
by Walter
gruensucher wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:34 pm
This is an HTML file, I've already changed quite a bit.
My user book is perfect, can change by yourself!
Should be like that!
PDF does not have to be.
Es ist nicht der Sinn der Übung, dass hier jeder sein eigenes Manual schreibt. Vielmehr sollte das Manual "ab Werk" so gut sein, dass das gar nicht nötig ist.

Und eine PDF-Datei lässt sich so formatieren, dass man sie (auch) ordentlich ausdrucken kann. In dem Druck kann man dann gerne handschriftlich seine persönlichen Notizen machen.

(For our unilingual readers: Tried to explain the reasons for and benefits of proper manuals, contentwise and formatwise.)

Re: DM42 User Manual

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:11 am
by toml_12953
Walter wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:45 pm
gruensucher wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:34 pm
This is an HTML file, I've already changed quite a bit.
My user book is perfect, can change by yourself!
Should be like that!
PDF does not have to be.
Es ist nicht der Sinn der Übung, dass hier jeder sein eigenes Manual schreibt. Vielmehr sollte das Manual "ab Werk" so gut sein, dass das gar nicht nötig ist.

Und eine PDF-Datei lässt sich so formatieren, dass man sie (auch) ordentlich ausdrucken kann. In dem Druck kann man dann gerne handschriftlich seine persönlichen Notizen machen.

(For our unilingual readers: Tried to explain the reasons for and benefits of proper manuals, contentwise and formatwise.)
No problem. Most browsers can translate many languages into English automatically. Is this close to your meaning?

It is not the purpose of the exercise that everyone writes their own manual here. Rather, the manual "ex works" should be so good that it is not necessary.

And a PDF-file can be used to format and also print out properly. In the print you may make hand-written personal notes.

Re: DM42 User Manual

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:13 am
by Walter
toml_12953 wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:11 am
No problem. Most browsers can translate many languages into English automatically. Is this close to your meaning?
I have to admit automatic translation has improved a lot. Though some subtleties get lost. So, yes, it's close to my meaning. ;)

Re: DM42 User Manual

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:46 pm
by axd
About the user documentation: take a look at my post
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14&p=4109#p4109

Re: DM42 User Manual

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:54 pm
by cappy
grsbanks wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:44 pm
No need to be pained by it, Walter is right.

While discussing this with Michael and David the other day, I agreed to put together a manual in PDF form (so, printable if you want to print it) that goes through the differences between the DM42 and the HP-42S.

Prior knowledge of how to use the HP-42S is therefore assumed but I'll also point people to online resources for that machine.
An offline version would be great, for use without WiFi access.
What is the status of the PDF version?

Re: DM42 User Manual

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:40 pm
by Walter
cappy wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:54 pm
grsbanks wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:44 pm
No need to be pained by it, Walter is right.

While discussing this with Michael and David the other day, I agreed to put together a manual in PDF form (so, printable if you want to print it) that goes through the differences between the DM42 and the HP-42S.

Prior knowledge of how to use the HP-42S is therefore assumed but I'll also point people to online resources for that machine.
An offline version would be great, for use without WiFi access.
What is the status of the PDF version?
Grsbanks was quiet so far.

Re: DM42 User Manual

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:59 pm
by keithdalby
Can't a website just be printed as a PDF?

Re: DM42 User Manual

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:56 pm
by toml_12953
keithdalby wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:59 pm
Can't a website just be printed as a PDF?
It can be but then it's not paginated nicely and doesn't have page numbers or an index.