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Re. the Greek letters: I feel we may be at the limit of what the faceplate ca handle already. I also don't see myself having the need to type Greek nearly as much as Latin letters.

Do we need them on the "hard" keys at all?

Just asking...

Jaymos wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:09 pm

Jaymos wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:05 am

I think the best offers on the table are still STRNG and/or STR.

I have one more suggestion:

aSTR

where a is the greek alpha. This would clearly make STR understood to be in the alphanumeric string context.

??

Sure would, and also set it apart from STK.

Might also look cool...

Dani R. wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:15 am

You will find the functions under "ALPHA String Operations".
https://archived.hpcalc.org/greendyk/hp ... ed/13.html

I am not sure if ALPHA in this case is referring to the family of functions, or the alpha register?

What are the options though? Fair point. :-) Options therefore are: STRING (too long) STR (too much like STK) STRNG (can work) STRG (can work) I choose STRNG and the result looks like this. Any objections to the summary or the logic? See implementation on Layout 1A. http://cocoon-creations.com/down...

Does "character" suggest single character manipulations? Good question: my thoughts were that it refers to character based manipulations, including multiple characters like shifting of a string of characters for example. I understand your thinking. I can't help noticing that "string of characters" ...

Good idea. I like the base word: “character”. I like that more than “text”, because “text” largely refers to paragraphs or even more. CHR.FN would be ideal if I can fit it in the space. CR.FN is too vague and does not remind of character. CS.FN also is far from intuitive. I even think CHAR may be e...

At the moment I can't give a good reason why I don't like text and variants either. But maybe you can introduce another abbreviation, E for Edit. This is what is happening here. STR.E But aren't the operations functions - i.e. don't they take (an) argument(s), and return a result? In my understandi...

... Changing the name appeals to me, although they seem better described as "string functions" than "text functions" - at least to me. On the other hand, STR might not be a good name, since STK already exists. S.FN I think it's so rarely used, and then by the people who use P.FN also. EDIT: A.FN Ma...

Hi, thank you for checking in detail, H2X !! You're most welcome! Thank you for your excellent work! :-) The change with a.FN was discussed a few days ago when we realised that a.FN actually is a programming group and has no functions that you would directly use, therefore, the only reason we had i...

Jaymos wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:55 pm

So, do we have opinions on the new L1 and L1A ?

I like EQN on the same row as MATX and STAT, and VIEW is OK next to SHOW.

I also liked ALPHA.FN on the same key as ALPHA. What happened? Did I sleep?