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Re: 43S News

Post by H2X » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:13 pm

Walter wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:43 pm
Since that, I'm banned there.
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Re: 43S News

Post by burkhard » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:09 pm

Zaphod wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:37 am
Will hold back on a 42 if that's the case
If you look at the WP34s (and WP31s) project, that literally took years to be "complete". Sure, there were early versions of the software in people's hand much sooner, but that was a DIY repurposing project, not a final product sold to the public as a business venture. As such, "early rough edges" and some significant ongoing development could be tolerated more easily by the customer.

You can see SM worked on the DM42 for quite a while before they beta'd it and then more time before it was officially sold. With a proposed 43s project, leveraging much of the developed DM42 hardware would hopefully means that portion could happen quicker, but now the software development will (I would venture) be more work since there's no finely polished Core baseline like Thomas Okken's Free42 to start from.

It's an ambitious project, but we've seen how nice a job both a) the WP34s design / UI / software team did, and b) the DM42 hardware team did, so I really look forward to the fruit of their efforts.
As creative and skilled the team(s) may be, the 43s will be a whole lot of work for a small team working part-time.

My guess is that it will take a while (i.e. multi-year), so if you need a calculator any time soon or fancy the DM42, go ahead and get one now. Presumably the final 43s will be so similar in user form (especially that crucial Numpad / Enter↑ / Math operator area! :D ) that no one will be deterred from getting one in addition to any existing DM42(s). One for home and one for work!

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Re: 43S News

Post by Zaphod » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:23 pm

Thanks :D

I’m all for redundancy (in regards to multiple calculators in various locations) :mrgreen:

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Re: 43S News

Post by toml_12953 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:37 am

Zaphod wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:23 pm
Thanks :D

I’m all for redundancy (in regards to multiple calculators in various locations) :mrgreen:
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Re: 43S News

Post by Walter » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:16 pm

Swapped colours once more, bringing FILL closer to the other stack operations. So this section of the keyboard is looking like this now:
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Re: 43S News

Post by Walter » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:06 pm

Just read this thread again. For sake of clarity, please allow me to state there will be 43S-specific keys (definitly no stickers) and a 43S-specific keyplate. HTH.
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Re: 43S News

Post by rprosperi » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:36 am

@Walter - for further clarity, could you please post the latest complete keyboard and sample LCD images together in one Post? It will make it easier to reference (e.g. via bookmark) in one place without scrolling back and forth through multiple pages of varying designs with much discussion in between. No rush for this, when convenient.
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Re: 43S News

Post by Walter » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:45 am

rprosperi wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:36 am
@Walter - for further clarity, could you please post the latest complete keyboard and sample LCD images together in one Post? It will make it easier to reference (e.g. via bookmark) in one place without scrolling back and forth through multiple pages of varying designs with much discussion in between. No rush for this, when convenient.
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Re: 43S News

Post by Krauts In Space » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:01 am

H2X wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:36 am
Krauts In Space wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:03 pm
To my understanding the DM42 and DM43 are members of the same series of calculators: same size, same display.
Changing the numpad between DM42 and DM43 would be confusing.
This is confusing - are you confused by the different Voyager models?
No, but HP didn't relocate the operator 'column' to the left where the 0 column is.
Only the HP16C differd bec of the top row became A-F, and F is where CHS at the other models is.
Programmers seldom use E+, but CHS, so that explains this decission.
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Re: 43S News

Post by H2X » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:33 am

Krauts In Space wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:01 am
H2X wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:36 am
Krauts In Space wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:03 pm
To my understanding the DM42 and DM43 are members of the same series of calculators: same size, same display.
Changing the numpad between DM42 and DM43 would be confusing.
This is confusing - are you confused by the different Voyager models?
No, but HP didn't relocate the operator 'column' to the left where the 0 column is.
Only the HP16C differd bec of the top row became A-F, and F is where CHS at the other models is.
Programmers seldom use E+, but CHS, so that explains this decission.
See viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1816&start=10#p8081
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