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Walter wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:47 pm
H2X wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:52 am
H2X wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:02 am
The perhaps only remaining concern might also be typographical, that these arrows don't seem to be easily represented in HTML (so that the community can contribute docs and examples), e,g, like HTML entities. The f and g do, of course.
... I just found the ↰ and ↱ HTML entities, seemingly even abbreviations for "left shift" and "right shift".
Please give an hexadecimal unicode character code - I can't find any character looking like HP's shift arrows there so far. Thanks in advance.
Something like this?

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Walter wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:47 pm
H2X wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:52 am
H2X wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:02 am
The perhaps only remaining concern might also be typographical, that these arrows don't seem to be easily represented in HTML (so that the community can contribute docs and examples), e,g, like HTML entities. The f and g do, of course.
... I just found the ↰ and ↱ HTML entities, seemingly even abbreviations for "left shift" and "right shift".
Please give an hexadecimal unicode character code - I can't find any character looking like HP's shift arrows there so far. Thanks in advance.
↰ is ↰ U+21B0 (↰) and ↱ is ↱ U+21B1 (↱).
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Grazie, Massimo, and thanks ijabott!

Looking at the characters you mentioned, #x2BA2 and #x2BA3 are the best fitting ones in my view. And we have ,,, and  in Luiz Vieira's Keyset font. Nevertheless I think the colours are matching the actual use on this keyboard better than direction arrows (see [EXIT] in particular). So I prefer [f] and [g] still.
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The surface has changed a bit again:
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There are three (3) locations still unoccupied so far. Any ideas for operations which shall go there?
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Walter wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:27 pm
The surface has changed a bit again:

There are three (3) locations still unoccupied so far. Any ideas for operations which shall go there?
I like the introduction of the angle function where it is now, i.e. next to the abs function, and the consequent shuffling makes sense.

I do not have suggestions for functions to occupy the available blanks.

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Walter wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:27 pm
The surface has changed a bit again:
Ausschnitt.png

There are three (3) locations still unoccupied so far. Any ideas for operations which shall go there?
Could we have an official picture of the entire updated keyboard? :-)
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Walter wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:27 pm
The surface has changed a bit again:
Ausschnitt.png

There are three (3) locations still unoccupied so far. Any ideas for operations which shall go there?
%T might be nice (like the 12C), especially given it’s near % & Δ%.

The other thing I program as a user key on most calcs is logy(x), but you may already have that on a key? Just an idea.
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cdmackay wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:07 am
%T might be nice (like the 12C), especially given it’s near % & Δ%.

The other thing I program as a user key on most calcs is logy(x), but you may already have that on a key? Just an idea.
Logx(y) is an unshifted function in EXP.

%T returns - according to my information - 100 x/y. If this is true then it's a challenge for me to understand the use of this function. Why not just use x/y and do the trivial rest mentally? What do I miss?
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Walter wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:38 am
cdmackay wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:07 am
%T might be nice (like the 12C), especially given it’s near % & Δ%.

The other thing I program as a user key on most calcs is logy(x), but you may already have that on a key? Just an idea.
Logx(y) is an unshifted function in EXP.

%T returns - according to my information - 100 x/y. If this is true then it's a challenge for me to understand the use of this function. Why not just use x/y and do the trivial rest mentally? What do I miss?
You can use the answer in other calculations directly without having to add the 100 * yourself maybe.
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Walter wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:38 am
%T returns - according to my information - 100 x/y. If this is true then it's a challenge for me to understand the use of this function. Why not just use x/y and do the trivial rest mentally? What do I miss?
%T preserves T, Z, and Y. This is the first thing I assign on the keyboard of any (non-finance) machine I start to use (except any 41C model, where PACK is the first thing I assign and %T is second). Also, one of the fundamental purposes of a calculator is to not have to do the rest mentally.

I support assigning %T and honestly didn't notice until now it was not already available.

But perhaps its a good idea to leave a pair (both f- and g- shifts of a given key) of assignments blank to be used by each owner to assign his/her favorite function which is not assigned. In my case, I'll assign %T to one of them. :)
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