Line drawing support

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Re: Line drawing support

Post by grsbanks » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:17 pm

keithdalby wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:27 am
I read somewhere that Sanskrit would be a better technical language because of how it was invented to convey technical religious ideas, but I've no time to learn Sanskrit now. Or English, for that matter.
Ironically enough, English evolved from Sanskrit. All the so-called Indo-European languages did. Some English words clearly have the same origins as their Hindi counterparts. For example:

Ma (mother) = maan (मां)
Father = pita (पिता -- 'p' and 'f' sounds are often interchangeable in languages)

This book makes a very interesting read: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Empires-Word-L ... 007118716/
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Re: Line drawing support

Post by Walter » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:36 pm

grsbanks wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:17 pm
keithdalby wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:27 am
I read somewhere that Sanskrit would be a better technical language because of how it was invented to convey technical religious ideas, but I've no time to learn Sanskrit now. Or English, for that matter.
Ironically enough, English evolved from Sanskrit. All the so-called Indo-European languages did. Some English words clearly have the same origins as their Hindi counterparts. For example:

Ma (mother) = maan (मां)
Father = pita (पिता -- 'p' and 'f' sounds are often interchangeable in languages)
Don't reason based on these two words! Else you'd claim that these English words have the same origins as their Mandarin (Chinese) counterparts:

Ma (mother) = mā (妈)
Father = bà (爸 -- 'b' and 'f' sounds are often interchangeable in languages)
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Re: Line drawing support

Post by grsbanks » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:41 pm

Walter wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:36 pm
Don't reason based on these two words! Else you'd claim that these English words have the same origins as their Mandarin (Chinese) counterparts:
Fair point. I'm only going on what I have read in various books (including the one I linked to) and those two words were just two that came off the top of my head. There are plenty more but I can't remember them off-hand.
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Re: Line drawing support

Post by Walter » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:48 pm

There are more funny things:

Italian 'cantina' = cān tīng (餐厅), so one could speculate about Marco Polo's role in spreading words. ;)
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Re: Line drawing support

Post by Thomas Okken » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:51 pm

I thought English and Sanskrit were both descendants of Proto-Indo-European, just like all the other Indo-European languages. None of the living Indo-European languages are descendants of each other (well, except for Afrikaans, which really is a descendant of Dutch, just different enough that it's not considered a dialect any more).

Anyway, as Walter suggested, beware anecdotal evidence. If the family relationship made Indo-European languages similar, I'd expect to be able to make at least a little bit of sense out of, say, Hindi, Persian, Russian, or Irish, but in reality, I can't, and I'm stumped even by Swedish, Danish, and Norwegian, which are much more closely related to the languages I grew up with than any of those others.

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Re: Line drawing support

Post by keithdalby » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:34 pm

Common origin, as opposed to 'descended from'.

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