1e3 seperator

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mcc
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1e3 seperator

Post by mcc » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:18 pm

Hi,

I feel, that neither

1000,000.005
nor

1000.000,005

is exceptionally readable. I want to suggest as a second alternative a " " as seperator like this:

1000 000,005
or

1000 000.005

What do you think?

Could be made switchable via a Virtual Variable like

ReplDecSep=0 (default, use the original HP42s conform implementation)
ReplDecSep=1 (use " " instead of "," or ".".

Cheers
Meino
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Re: 1e3 seperator

Post by grsbanks » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:33 pm

That means patching Free42 because Free42 is responsible for formatting numbers.

If a Free42 patch is not needed to run Free42 on the hardware then it is unlikely to happen.
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Re: 1e3 seperator

Post by Thomas Okken » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:24 pm

This is also one of those "slippery slope" kind of features: if I say yes, what else do I end up agreeing to, and where will it end?

Because using spaces as thousands separators is not the only alternative; I've also seen apostrophes (straight single quotes). And then there's the Chinese system of grouping powers of 10000 (myriads), also used in Korea and Japan, and the list goes on...

I think I'll stick with the existing system. It's not perfect, but I do find it can be gotten used to, and that is saying something, given that I grew up in a country where we would write 1.000.000,00 and I now live in one where we write 1,000,000.00. I keep Free42 in RDX. mode now, thousands separators turned on, and it suits me fine.

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Re: 1e3 seperator

Post by HPMike » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:59 pm

Thomas Okken wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:24 pm
I keep Free42 in RDX. mode now, thousands separators turned on, and it suits me fine.
So, you can turn thousands separators off, or perhaps I misunderstand your meaning ? If you can turn them off, how do you do this ?
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Re: 1e3 seperator

Post by grsbanks » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:21 pm

HPMike wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:59 pm
So, you can turn thousands separators off, or perhaps I misunderstand your meaning ? If you can turn them off, how do you do this ?
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Re: 1e3 seperator

Post by HPMike » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:06 pm

grsbanks wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:21 pm
HPMike wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:59 pm
So, you can turn thousands separators off, or perhaps I misunderstand your meaning ? If you can turn them off, how do you do this ?
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Thanks ! When I saw the manual’s description of Flag 29 as “Digit Separators”, I thought it meant the type of separator, i.e. period or comma. Now that I think about it, it makes perfect sense that it refers to turning separators on or off, since choosing the radix symbol automatically determines the digit separator symbol.
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Re: 1e3 seperator

Post by AlexFekken » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:26 am

Thomas Okken wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:24 pm
This is also one of those "slippery slope" kind of features: if I say yes, what else do I end up agreeing to, and where will it end?
Perhaps not so slippery at all because this is exactly what the SI system recommends:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internati ... m_of_Units

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